{"id":30363,"date":"2014-05-06T14:24:53","date_gmt":"2014-05-06T12:24:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nabarralde.eus\/hernaniko-san-sebastian-monastegia\/"},"modified":"2014-05-06T14:24:53","modified_gmt":"2014-05-06T12:24:53","slug":"hernaniko-san-sebastian-monastegia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nabarralde.eus\/es\/hernaniko-san-sebastian-monastegia\/","title":{"rendered":"Hernaniko San Sebastian monastegia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">\u00abGizarteak bazekien Hernaniko San Sebastian monastegia Leirekoari eman zitzaiola\u00bb<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.49cm; margin-bottom: 0.49cm;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial Unicode MS,sans-serif;\">Jos\u00e9 Luis Orellak hitz egingo du Hernaniri buruz ezagutzen den lehen aipamen historikoaren gainean, asteartean, maiatzak 6, arratsaldeko 19:30etan, Hernaniko Udaletxean<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.49cm; margin-bottom: 0.49cm;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial Unicode MS,sans-serif;\">Jose Luis Orellak dioenez, gauzak ez dira sortzen idatzita azaltzen direnean, baizik eta askoz lehenago. Hernani aipa\u00adtzen den lehendabiziko idatzia 1014ko datarekin ageri da, baina XII mendeko faltsifika\u00adzio bat dela-eta ez dela, ezta\u00adbaida sortu da, baliogarria ote den edo ez. Orella historia\u00adla\u00adriak asteartean defendatuko du idatzi horren balioa. Faltsi\u00adfi\u00adkazio bat izan arren, idatzi horretan azaltzen diren ele\u00admen\u00adtuak oso baliagarriak di\u00adrela dio Erdi Aroko historiako katedradun honek.<br \/>Hernani Errotzen taldeak antolatu du hitzaldia, Naba\u00adrral\u00adderekin batera, asteartean, 19:30etan, Hernaniko Udale\u00adtxean: Geohistoria de la Tenen\u00adcia navarra de San Sebastian de Hernani.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0.49cm; margin-bottom: 0.49cm;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial Unicode MS,sans-serif;\"><strong>Gizarteak zekiena idatziz jarri zen garai hartan<\/strong><br \/>Orellaren iritziz, XII mendean idatzi zen dokumentu hori, eta 1014ko data jarri zitzaion. Lei\u00adreko monastegian azaldu zen idatzia, eta bertan aipatzen da, Hernaniko tenentzian dagoen San Sebastian ermita Leireko monastegiari ematen zaiola, donazio moduan.<br \/>Hernani aipatzen den le\u00adhen\u00addabiziko idatzia da hori, eta urte askoan pentsatu izan da benetakoa dela. Faltsifikazio bat zela demostratu zenetik, ordea, zenbaitentzat balio guz\u00adtia galtzen du idatziak, eta ho\u00adrren kontra dago Orella. Kon\u00adtuan izan behar da, faltsi\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adzioa bera ere XII mendean egin bazen, oso zaharra dela, eta lehenagoko zerbaiti buruz ari direla faltsifikazioa egin du\u00adte\u00adnak. Beraz, hainbat urte lehe\u00adna\u00adgoko lekua, eta gertae\u00adrak ahalik eta zehatzen des\u00adkri\u00adbitzen saiatu ziren faltsi\u00adfi\u00adkatzaileak.<br \/>Hernani Erro\u00adtze\u00adne\u00adko kideek ere hala diote: \u00abBaina doku\u00admen\u00adtua, faltsi\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adtua izan arren, garai harta\u00adkoa da eta deskribapen zeha\u00adtza eskain\u00adtzen du (mo\u00adnaste\u00adrioaren des\u00adkri\u00ad\u00adbapena, toponi\u00admia, garaiko elementuak eta abar) XI-XII. mendean egiazko dokumentu gisa hartua izateko\u00bb.<br \/>Orellak ere bide beretik hitz egiten du: \u00abBadakigu, Pedro Iaren garaian, XI mende ha\u00adsie\u00adran, bazela ohitura bat Sancho erregearen garaitik zetorrena. Horren arabera gizarteak baze\u00adkien errege batek Hernaniko San Sebastian monastegia, An\u00adti\u00adguon zegoena, Leireko monas\u00adte\u00adgiari eman zitzaiola. Beraz, Pedro Iaren garaian hori faltsifikatzeak soilik egiaztatu egiten du, forma kultuan jarri eta idatziz, garai hartako jendeak eta gizarteak onartua zeukan gauza bat\u00bb.<br \/>Hernanik 1000 urte, eta gehiago<br \/>Orellaren hitzaldiarekin, Her\u00adna\u00ad\u00adni Errotzenen asmoa da, 1014ko data daukan dokumen\u00adtuari lehenengo mailako iturri historikoaren lekua ematea. Faltsifikatutako dokumentu bat izateak ez du esan nahi des\u00adkribatzen diren gauzak gezu\u00adrrezkoak direnik, eta hare gehiago, garai hartako deskri\u00adbapen ahalik eta zehatzena egi\u00adten saiatuko ziren faltsifika\u00adtzai\u00adleak, hori egiazkotzat jo zezaten denek. Leireko monjeek faltsifikatuko zuten idatzi hori, eta asmoa zen, San Sebastian monastegia beraiena zela de\u00admostratzea, hamarrena kobra\u00adtzen jarraitu ahal izateko.<br \/>Hori bakarrik ez, Orellak dioenez, gauzak ez dira sortzen idazten direnean, baizik eta askoz lehenago. Horren ara\u00adbe\u00adra, ulertu liteke, 1014 urtea baino lehenagotik bazegoela leku bat Hernani izenekoa.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.kronika.net\/albisteak\/hernani\/albistea\/2014\/05\/04\/8535d1f642696\/gizarteak-bazekien-hernaniko-san-sebastian-monastegia-leirekoari-eman-zitzaiola\/\">http:\/\/www.kronika.net\/albisteak\/hernani\/albistea\/2014\/05\/04\/8535d1f642696\/gizarteak-bazekien-hernaniko-san-sebastian-monastegia-leirekoari-eman-zitzaiola\/<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00abGizarteak bazekien Hernaniko San Sebastian monastegia Leirekoari eman zitzaiola\u00bb Jos\u00e9 Luis Orellak hitz egingo du Hernaniri buruz ezagutzen den lehen aipamen historikoaren gainean, asteartean, maiatzak 6, arratsaldeko 19:30etan, Hernaniko Udaletxean Jose Luis Orellak dioenez, gauzak ez dira sortzen idatzita azaltzen direnean, baizik eta askoz lehenago. 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